Class Discussion, Main Room
Date
1/21/98
Start log: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 3:19:08 pm Virtual
Park Hall time --
GeraldLa says, "Mr. Cole, can you tell me how to look at papers on the web page without exiting this program"
ShannonMc says, "Yeah, How can we look at the papers hile talking?"
ShannonMc says, "while talking?"
WendyFr has arrived.
JoeSa says, "Hey partner"
ShannonMc says, "Wendy, have you studied Chem?"
WendyFr says, "Hey, Joe!"
ScottFr has arrived.
WendyFr says, "a little"
ShannonMc says, "when do you have lab?"
WendyFr says, "have you, Shannon?"
FrankBl has arrived.
ShannonMc says, "I have it tonight"
ShannonMc says, "a little"
Mr.Cole says, "For those of you connecting with Pueblo or another MOO client, it's just a matter of launching Netscape (or another browser) at the same time."
WendyFr says, "I have lab tonight"
FrankBl says, "Howdy"
WendyFr says, "Howdy, Frank"
JasonOg says, "so, are you not going to talk to me Wendy"
WendyFr says, "HEY JASON!"
JoeSa says, "Hey Wendy, I think I've figured out how to work the bulletin board and kinda talk at the same time, so I shouldnt have a problem today."
KurtDa has arrived.
Mr.Cole says, "If you are connecting to the MOO via the web and Mudslide, you can still look at papers (or other web poages) by opening a second browser window. This is usually done by choosing "New" or "Open New" or "New Browser" or something
like that from the "File" menu of your browser."
WendyFr says, "Hey, Kurt"
JasonOg says, "cool"
KurtDa says, "I got cut off again, anything special happen?"
Mr.Cole says, "Did everyone get that?"
KurtDa says, "hi wendy"
FrankBl says, "do we put corrections on our papers that we have already posted or do we post another copy"
WendyFr says, "got it"
FrankBl says, "yes"
KurtDa says, "yes, I got it"
ShannonMc says, "got it"
JoeSa says, "One tip on Mr. Cole's comment: you arent really getting cut off, its just opening up another slide on top of it."
JoeSa says, "That's what happened to me yesterday"
KurtDa says, "I actually did get cut off"
WendyFr says, "you just think you did"
Mr.Cole says, "For final drafts, I want you to submit via the submissions page, rather than to the Web Board."
JoeSa says, "Oh Woops"
JasonOg says, "okay"
FrankBl says, "alright"
KurtDa says, "If I was going through the web I would have, but I had to reset the computer."
WendyFr says, "groovy "
JoeSa says, "10:04"
KurtDa says, "yea man, groovy"
AndrewGo has arrived.
Mr.Cole says, "OK, I don't have much to go through today. Were there any other questions?"
ShannonMc says, "nope"
JoeSa says, "not here"
WendyFr says, "i don't think so"
FrankBl says, "none here"
JasonOg says, "uh uh"
AndrewGo says, "nope"
JoeSa says, "Mr. Cole, can we read the papers now?"
MiMa has arrived.
Mr.Cole says, "Then I'll ask you all to break into groups again. Reread the "assignment" from yesterday (read 2 on note) and continue discussing papers. Try to go into some depth with a couple papers rather than skimming over all of them."
ScottFr leaves for the Two.
JasonOg leaves for the Three.
JulieOw leaves for the Two.
MiMa leaves for the Four.
FrankBl leaves for the Three.
GeraldLa leaves for the Four.
JoeSa says, "one"
KurtDa leaves for the Two.
JoeSa leaves for the One.
JenniferCa leaves for the Three.
WendyFr leaves for the One.
ShannonMc leaves for the Three.
AndrewGo leaves for the Two.
MaggieCa has arrived.
MaggieCa leaves for the One.
NickSm has arrived.
NickSm leaves for the Four.
Mr.Cole says, "Those of you having trouble reading the note board: type 'read 2 on note'."
Mr.Cole leaves for the Three.
MiMa has arrived.
MiMa leaves for the Four.
AndrewGo has arrived.
AndrewGo has disconnected.
AndrewGo has connected.
AndrewGo leaves for the Two.
Mr.Cole has arrived.
JenniferCa has arrived.
Mr.Cole says, "It's just easier to talk out here."
JenniferCa says, "ok"
Mr.Cole says, "So, are you using Windows 3?"
JenniferCa says, "yes, well 3.11"
KurtDa has arrived.
KurtDa leaves for the Two.
Mr.Cole says, "I'm not positive we can do this, then. It works a lot better on Win95 or a Mac."
JenniferCa says, "thats what i figured"
Mr.Cole says, "But I'll try anyway. There should be a couple boxes with arrows in the upper right of your zMUD window."
JenniferCa says, "yeah"
Mr.Cole says, "The downward arrow is the minimize button. When you press it (don't do it yet) it should reduce zMUD to an icon and give you access to your desktop again."
AndrewGo has arrived.
JenniferCa says, "yeah i tried that but i always have to reconnect"
AndrewGo leaves for the Two.
ScottFr has arrived.
ScottFr say, "Mr. Cole, I have a question"
Mr.Cole says, "Ohhh. Uggh. Well, then, I suppose you could disconnect, read a paper and reconnect, but that's a pretty bad option. Your best bet would probably be to make hard copies of your partners' papers for days like this."
Mr.Cole says, "Just a minute, Scott."
ScottFr say, "aye sir"
JenniferCa says, "okie dokie"
Mr.Cole says, "Sorry I couldn't do better than that."
ScottFr say, "thats what I did Jenn"
JenniferCa says, "its alright, thanx anyway"
Mr.Cole says, "So what's your question, Scott?"
JenniferCa leaves for the Three.
ScottFr say, "when I submit my paper with a long quote in it I am not sure the italics works?"
ScottFr say, "is that a problem"
Mr.Cole says, "Well, I'm not sure why you would need italics in a quotation."
ScottFr say, "I thought you did if it was several sentences and you make it look like a new paragraph"
Mr.Cole says, "Normally, long quotes are indented, which does pose a problem with translation from format to format. I need to decide what convention we will use."
Mr.Cole says, "For now, just treat a block quotation as a separate paragraph. I'll find a better solution for the next paper."
ScottFr say, "thank you very much, sir"
ScottFr leaves for the Two.
MiMa has arrived.
MiMa leaves for the Three.
Mr.Cole leaves for the Four.
MiMa has arrived.
MiMa leaves for the Four.
Mr.Cole has arrived.
NickSm has arrived.
MiMa has arrived.
GeraldLa has arrived.
Mr.Cole says, "Try to wrap things up folks. I want to talk to y'all out here before we break."
ShannonMc has arrived.
ShannonMc leaves for the Three.
JasonOg has arrived.
ShannonMc has arrived.
FrankBl has arrived.
JenniferCa has arrived.
MaggieCa has arrived.
JoeSa has arrived.
ShannonMc says, "my computer froze"
KurtDa has arrived.
WendyFr has arrived.
AndrewGo has arrived.
MaggieCa says, "thank y'all"
WendyFr says, "Hello everybody"
ShannonMc says, "Thanks Frank and Jason for reading my paper"
MaggieCa says, "hi everyone"
FrankBl says, "hello"
MiMa says, "howdy""
ShannonMc says, "you guys helped alot"
JasonOg says, "anything for you"
WendyFr says, "thanks Joe and Maggie"
KurtDa says, "Jason, you're such a kiss up"
JulieOw has arrived.
FrankBl says, "no prpblem I wish you could have stayed with us longer Shannon"
Mr.Cole says, "So, papers are due tomorrow before class. Questions"
ScottFr has arrived.
ShannonMc says, "but he is good at it"
JenniferCa says, "yeah arent frank and jason just great"
KurtDa laughs.
WendyFr says, "and you are not a kiss up, Kurt?"
WendyFr laughs.
ShannonMc says, "you are great too Jenny"
JoeSa says, "You're welcome"
JasonOg says, "thanks Wendy"
NickSm says, "would you two knock it off for two seconds?"
KurtDa says, "not at all, in fact I cut everyone down as much as possible"
JoeSa says, "dont forget that the final draft is due tomorrow"
WendyFr says, "you are welcomed, Jason"
Mr.Cole says, "HELLO!"
ShannonMc says, "hey"
WendyFr says, "thanks, Joe"
JasonOg says, "shhhhh"
WendyFr says, "Yes, Mr.Cole?"
MiMa says, "yes?""
NickSm says, "yeah we understand, papers due tomorrow before class"
KurtDa says, "yes..."
MaggieCa says, "on the Submissions page?"
JoeSa says, "oui"
MaggieCa says, "merci"
JoeSa says, "tres bien"
Mr.Cole says, "One question that came up was regarding long quotations. Normally these are indented, but that won't really translate. My temporary suggestion is to just treat them as a separate paragraph. I'm not going to be stickler on quotati
on mechanics this time anyway."
Mr.Cole says, "Yes, on the Submissions page."
MiMa says, "ok""
WendyFr says, "OK"
MaggieCa says, "thank you"
ShannonMc says, "cool"
KurtDa says, "Si."
Mr.Cole says, "Any other question?"
FrankBl says, "ok"
NickSm says, "nope"
FrankBl says, "none here"
ShannonMc says, "nope"
Mr.Cole says, "s"
AndrewGo says, "no"
MiMa says, "no sir""
WendyFr says, "I don't think so"
JasonOg says, "on sir"
MaggieCa says, "no sir"
JoeSa says, "yes, can the intro be one sentence?"
KurtDa says, "nope"
JenniferCa says, "i just have a small question about my paper"
JenniferCa says, "but it can wait"
Mr.Cole says, "Any paragraph can, in theory be one sentence. But you would need a pretty good reason for it."
MiMa says, "may we go now?""
JasonOg says, "how about the writer's license"
JoeSa says, "Thanks, its just an introductory statement"
FrankBl says, "Shannon don't forget to try to put your paper back together"
AndrewGo says, "I LOVE this class, but can we go."
ShannonMc says, "I won't forget. Thanks"
Mr.Cole says, "If there aren't any more questions, you can split. We're in the MOO tomorrow for some general discussion."
AndrewGo goes out.
ScottFr say, "chow"
JasonOg says, "Jenny, I hope you have a good day"
ScottFr goes out.
NickSm goes out.
MaggieCa says, "bye"
MaggieCa goes out.
GeraldLa has disconnected.
ShannonMc says, "Have a good day"
FrankBl goes out.
MiMa has disconnected.
ShannonMc goes out.
JulieOw has disconnected.
JasonOg goes out.
JoeSa goes out.
Mr.Cole says, "Jenny, did you want to ask that question?"
WendyFr says, "Bye"
KurtDa says, "bye guys."
KurtDa goes out.
Mr.Cole waves
WendyFr waves.
JenniferCa says, "yeah, i say the essay is ineffective but all the things i point out say how it is effective, in a way"
WendyFr has disconnected.
JenniferCa says, "i know thats not good"
MaggieCa has arrived.
Mr.Cole says, "A fairly common problem, actually. You need to shift your thesis a bit to something along the lines of "Z's argument makes some good points, but is tragically flawed by..."
JenniferCa says, "and that should fix everything?"
Mr.Cole says, "Or you might go so far as to say that it IS an effective argument, but could be improved by fixing X"
JenniferCa says, "ok, thank you very nuch"
Mr.Cole says, "Well, you'll have to do some spackling with transitions and such, but you can accomplish a lot just by changing the emphasis"
JenniferCa says, "ok"
Mr.Cole says, "Maggie, did you need to see me?"
JenniferCa has disconnected.
MaggieCa says, "yes sir"
Mr.Cole says, "just one second..."
MaggieCa says, "i need to meet with you tomorrow if at all possible"
End log: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 4:19:06 pm Virtual Park Hall time --