Class Discussion, Room #2
Date 1/22/98

Start log: Thursday, January 22, 1998 3:45:06 pm Virtual Park Hall time --

ScottFr say, "did everybody read it yet"
JulieOw says, "I have "
AndrewGo says, "yeah"
NickSm says, "aw man, i was ready to rip Rich apart..."
JulieOw says, "what Nick?"
NickSm says, "Adrienne Rich, the feminist of all man hating feminists"
ScottFr say, "not a nice girl, I assume"
NickSm says, "no, not at all"
ScottFr say, "so what does anyone think a university should be"
JulieOw says, "Just don't take it out on me, the only female in group 2"
AndrewGo says, "l"
KurtDa has disconnected.
ScottFr say, "ideas?"
ScottFr say, "poor Kurt, he has a hard time holding on"
JulieOw says, "a place to get an education to prepare you for a specific career in life"
AndrewGo says, "I think most people believe it is a pre-cursor to getting a good job"
ScottFr say, "what about partying and all the good stuff"
[Mr.Cole's Classroom] Mr.Cole says, "I forgot something. You need to choose a group leader. Someone NEW."
JulieOw says, "Just a bonus"
NickSm says, "not it"
JulieOw says, "not me"
ScottFr say, "you don't think its an avoidance to the real world"
AndrewGo says, "It is fun in all but where the hell is funnelling a beer going to get you in life"
JulieOw says, " an avoidance to McDonalds"
ScottFr laughs.
[Mr.Cole's Classroom] Mr.Cole says, "Everyone will have to lead at some point, so don't be shy."
NickSm says, "a university should be a place where knowledge is only the beginning to an education"
ScottFr say, "whoa"
JulieOw says, "where did you get that"
AndrewGo says, "education is not only learned in a classroom"
JulieOw says, " are you reading straght from a book, or do you have it memorized"
ScottFr say, "true, I learned alot my freshman year, its called budgeting my time wisely"
NickSm says, "exactly, knowing how and when to apply this knowledge is another important part"
AndrewGo says, "Me too, like coffee does not help a hangover"
ScottFr say, "hangover, over"
NickSm says, "always take water and advil more passing out...."
ScottFr say, "don't take tylenol, bad for you"
NickSm says, "before passing out, whoops"
ScottFr say, "when alcohol is involved"
AndrewGo says, "I never pass out"
ScottFr say, "then you don't drink"
NickSm says, "you don't drink enough apparently,,,"
JulieOw says, "whatever Andy"
NickSm says, "lets get back on track alright people?"
The housekeeper arrives to cart KurtDa off to bed.
AndrewGo says, "Maybe once or twice I don't remember"
AndrewGo says, "okay..anyway"
ScottFr say, "we are on track we are discussing the university system and how it works"
AndrewGo says, "But does it work well"
ScottFr say, "50% of college life is planning or getting drunk"
AndrewGo says, "I mean, they say teachers are giving easier grades because of HOPE"
NickSm says, "only if the student is willing to use what he/she has learned"
JulieOw says, " I think it depends on the person"
KurtDa has arrived.
AndrewGo says, "I don't mind, but are we learning anything"
ScottFr say, "why would the teachers do that, they are not on hope, we are"
NickSm says, "teachers are giving easier grades b/c they are tired of students slacking off and they dont the patience anymore"
KurtDa says, "Damn it, I got cut off"
ScottFr say, "I doubt that"
AndrewGo says, "me too"
AndrewGo says, "I think it is the sympathy factor"
KurtDa says, "I thind its the BS factor"
AndrewGo laughs.
ScottFr say, "nah, I don't believe teachers are giving easier grades at least not all colleges I have been too"
NickSm says, "its true, try to remember a teacher in high school coming in to class in the morning looking like a 9 to 5 factory worker with nothing to live for...."
AndrewGo says, "How many have you been too"
ScottFr say, "3"
AndrewGo says, "DAMN"
NickSm says, "not colleges, high schools mostly i believe"
KurtDa says, "They do it because that is what they enjoy teaching, at least for the first few years"
ScottFr say, "agreed"
AndrewGo says, "So they give better grades"
ScottFr say, "teachers wouldn't teach at first unless they enjoyed it and liked students"
KurtDa says, "no, high school teachers don't give a shit about grades, they don't like grading at all"
ScottFr say, "I can't really remember high school"
NickSm says, "dude, watch the language genious"
NickSm says, "me either"
KurtDa says, "yea yea"
AndrewGo says, "Why not"
ScottFr say, "so lets talk about college, k?"
NickSm says, "lots of sleeping, cheating,and skipping"
AndrewGo says, "Straight A student, right"
ScottFr say, "I remember that part"
KurtDa says, "right..."
[Mr.Cole's Classroom] Mr.Cole says, "5 more minutes, folks. Then come out here and present your consensus""
KurtDa says, "but back to the subject."
ScottFr say, "do you really think half the classes we take here are going to help in our future job"
JulieOw says, "yeah, actually I do"
AndrewGo says, "Hell no"
KurtDa says, "no, most of what you learn here a college is not going to be in the classroom."
AndrewGo says, "The first two years is bull crap"
KurtDa says, "it's more of a time to find yourself and what you want out of life"
ScottFr say, "so college is to expand your knowledge while specifically training you for a certain job and you get to drink alot doing it"
JulieOw says, "the fisrt bull shit classes like math and english are just to make sure you want to be here"
NickSm says, "not from the curriculum but from the group interactions and things like that"
AndrewGo says, "I think Scott has got it"
JulieOw says, "Great way to put it Scott"
KurtDa says, "yea, I think so to"
AndrewGo says, "I think you are the leader for the day"
ScottFr say, "thanks"
JulieOw says, "ditto"
KurtDa says, "You can be team captian today, I was last time"
ScottFr laughs.
ScottFr cries.
KurtDa laughs at ScottFr.
JulieOw says, "Congrats Scott Make us Proud"
KurtDa says, "Go Scott, Go Scott, Go Go Go Scott"
AndrewGo says, "Go Scott, it's your birthday!!!"
AndrewGo says, "Well, I don't really know if it is..."
KurtDa laughs.
ScottFr say, "stop it, and my birthday is 5 months away"
JulieOw says, "Kurt, why do you keep getting cut off"
KurtDa says, "This computer sucks"
[Mr.Cole's Classroom] Mr.Cole says, "Olly, olly, in-come-free."
ScottFr say, "mine's great"
ScottFr say, "what did he just say"
[Mr.Cole's Classroom] WendyFr has arrived.
KurtDa says, "only once today, I'm feeling lucky"
AndrewGo says, "I'm leaving, ya'll are weird"
[Mr.Cole's Classroom] GeraldLa has arrived.
AndrewGo goes out.
[Mr.Cole's Classroom] AndrewGo has arrived.
KurtDa goes out.
JulieOw goes out.
ScottFr goes out.
NickSm goes out.

End log: Thursday, January 22, 1998 4:19:04 pm Virtual Park Hall time --