Class Discussion,
Main Room
Date 2/17/98
Start log: Tuesday, February 17, 1998
3:20:49 pm Virtual Park Hall time --
MiMa has arrived.
MiMa says, "hello"
JasonOg says, "hi"
AndrewGo says, "Hey"
JulieOw says, "hello"
ScottFr say, "is your dob fast as hell or what, mine gallops it is amazing to watch him run (greyhound in him)"
ScottFr say, "runs like gazelle on discovery channel"
AndrewGo says, "Fast but he is too nice, would not hurt anyone"
ScottFr say, "ditto"
JasonOg says, "mine is slow and fat"
JasonOg says, "but very nice"
ScottFr say, "doesn't act like the publicized pitt"
FrankBl has arrived.
MiMa says, "mr. Cole, I got so stuck on my paper"
AndrewGo says, "@who"
MiMa says, "oops, he's not here"
AndrewGo says, "what is that"
AndrewGo says, "?????"
ScottFr say, "mine has gotten in a lot of fights with other
dogs because they attack him, but he has always finished the fight"
ShannonMc has arrived.
AndrewGo says, "I my little one would get killed but max would
probably run away"
ScottFr laughs.
JasonOg says, "my dog nevers starts fights, but if another dog
messes with Sammy, she will eat them"
ScottFr say, "ditto"
AndrewGo says, "He is a big teddy bear"
AndrewGo says, "My dog that is"
WendyFr has arrived.
ScottFr say, "the best thing is chics dig the dog they come
over just to see him which sometimes isn't so great"
FrankBl says, "what kind of dogs are we talking about"
AndrewGo says, "Yeah, definitely true"
JasonOg says, "I know what you're saying Scott"
ScottFr say, "mutts, dobs, and shits"
AndrewGo says, "Ever walk in a park with your dog? "
MaggieCa has arrived.
JasonOg says, "hell yeah"
FrankBl says, "it is best when the dogs are young"
ScottFr say, "yup, I had at least 5 chics come up"
AndrewGo says, "Best way to pick up girls, I think"
JasonOg says, "No doubt"
ScottFr say, "thats when he was about 6 months"
AndrewGo says, "Puppies are magnets?"
FrankBl says, "a baby is the only thing that works better"
AndrewGo says, "That is true also"
AndrewGo says, "But at least with a dog you look single"
ScottFr say, "I went to a party once when he was only a couple
months old and every single chic came over and there was at least 30-40
of them"
JasonOg says, "I don't know Frank, Sammy is about 18 months
now, and the girls still dig her"
GeraldLa has arrived.
FrankBl says, "they just dig you stud"
JenniferCa has arrived.
JasonOg says, "you know it"
ScottFr say, "I wish"
FrankBl says, "don't we all"
ScottFr say, "they took him from me and passed him around,
left me"
JasonOg laughs
JasonOg says, "been there Scott"
AndrewGo says, "Now that pisses me off"
AndrewGo says, "My dog gets scared if too many people want to
touch him"
ScottFr say, "I kind of lagged behind so I got to look at some
behinds bending over"
JasonOg says, "Mine loves attention"
KurtDa has arrived.
JoeSa has arrived.
AndrewGo says, "Man, you are evil"
JasonOg laughs
MaggieCa laughs
KurtDa says, "I'm here"
ShannonMc says, "no one cares"
KurtDa says, "hey guys, what's up?"
ScottFr say, "evil is good"
ShannonMc says, ":)"
AndrewGo says, "Evil is good"
FrankBl says, "Scott you are all about cheap thrills"
ScottFr say, "not always"
JasonOg says, "david allen Coe"
AndrewGo says, "We all need some"
ScottFr say, "just most of the time"
FrankBl says, "that is right"
GeraldLa says, "what are ya'll talking about"
AnandVy has arrived.
MaggieCa says, "do you like DAC?"
ScottFr say, "girls and dogs"
Mr.Cole has arrived.
JasonOg says, "very much"
FrankBl says, "I love DAC"
AndrewGo says, "Don't tell me you don't look at girls in short
skirts"
MaggieCa says, "I went to see him at the Theatre "
ScottFr say, "what is DAC"
JasonOg says, "whenever I get the chance"
Mr.Cole says, "Hi folks. How are y'all doing."
GeraldLa says, "david allen coe"
FrankBl says, "when did you go Magie"
ShannonMc says, "fine"
JoeSa says, "Good, sir"
KurtDa says, "alright"
FrankBl says, "Maggie"
ScottFr say, "who's that, I am kind of stupid"
MaggieCa says, "Right before Christmas break"
JasonOg says, "country singer"
FrankBl says, "he is a country music singer"
AndrewGo says, "Supercalifralisticexbialidous"
MaggieCa says, "I think"
GeraldLa says, "old country singer"
ScottFr say, "oh never mind I am not stupid I just hate country"
JasonOg says, "one of the best, him and HW Jr."
AnandVy says, "I have a very racist bootleg of his."
AndrewGo says, "I only like the orginal Hank Williams"
MaggieCa says, "he was awesome"
AnandVy says, "And i dont approve"
JoeSa says, "would be feelin better if I had finnished this
roughie"
FrankBl says, "he sings The Ride"
GeraldLa says, "does it have the eat bite song on it"
ScottFr say, "Mr. Cole can I meet you tomorrow at 1400"
JasonOg says, "then don't listen to him Anand"
MaggieCa says, "usually he doesn't play but for 45 min. But he
played for over an hour last time i saw him"
FrankBl says, "or if that aint country"
AnandVy says, "I don't"
Mr.Cole says, "I'm sorry I kind of spaced on getting the WB
ready for your drafts. but I see most of you got something up anyway."
MaggieCa says, "yes sir"
GeraldLa says, "anand, does the bootleg have the "eat bite"
song on it?"
MiMa says, "a little"
FrankBl says, "If that aint country is very racist but a great
song none the less"
AndrewGo says, "Enough about country"
AnandVy says, "It has that one that starts "She said someday
I'd understand what love was all about""
JasonOg says, "racist in a sense, just very old fashiones south"
MaggieCa says, "exactly"
Mr.Cole says, "Are you running into any problems with the
papers that should be addressed generally?"
FrankBl says, "great point"
AnandVy says, "He says nigger 30 times. I think that racist"
JasonOg says, "so do rappers"
AnandVy says, "I was offended"
ShannonMc says, "excuse me?"
ScottFr say, "nope just need to discuss some things "
JoeSa says, "Do we need a title this time, Mr. Cole?"
MiMa says, "Mr. Cole, I got stuck at the end of it"
AndrewGo says, "What about nigga, is that racist?"
MaggieCa says, "how do we sight something that Kirkpatrick
says in the interview"
FrankBl says, "just bcause the are black can they say nigger
while we are white so we can not"
GeraldLa says, "Anand, whats the name of the album"
ScottFr say, "gratsi"
KurtDa has disconnected.
AndrewGo says, "They, as in black people?"
AnandVy says, "He goes on to say " Then that scumbag
mother##### ran off with a ni###" Terrible"
ShannonMc says, "Let's end this conversation"
ScottFr say, "enough"
AnandVy says, "It's a bootleg"
Mr.Cole says, "OK, as much as I would LOVE to discuss the
politics of racial epithets in contemporary society, that's a LITTLE
off-topic."
JoeSa agrees with Shannon
JulieOw says, "thankyou shannon"
ShannonMc says, "I don't care what it is"
JasonOg says, "we can debate all day, but rap is just as bad"
WendyFr says, "I agree, Shannon"
FrankBl says, "way to tke a stand Shannon"
AnandVy says, "Rap is not as direct as Mr. David"
KurtDa has connected.
AnandVy says, "allen"
MaggieCa says, "STOP"
AndrewGo says, "What are we talking about today, Mr. Cole"
Mr.Cole says, "As for Joe's question, you should pretty much
always have a title. It is the first thing a reader notices. Consider it
part of your introduction."
KurtDa says, "sorry, I got cut off"
KurtDa says, "what's going on today>?"
JasonOg says, "As I said before, you don't have to listen to
him, so whats the problem"
JoeSa says, "OK Thanks"
AnandVy says, "nothing"
ShannonMc says, "I don't care if you are white or black. No
one is going to call me a .... LET'S CHANGE SUBJECTS!"
JasonOg says, "sorry Shannon"
JenniferCa says, "you tell them shannon"
MaggieCa says, "Kirkpatrick?"
Mr.Cole says, "OK. Deep, cleansing breath."
AnandVy says, "I am not them."
JasonOg says, "I haven't used the word once"
KurtDa says, "what?"
WendyFr laughs.
AndrewGo says, "Okay, English people, English."
WendyFr says, "things are out of control"
Mr.Cole says, "Right, Kirkpatrick Sale. "
MaggieCa says, "Yes sir"
MaggieCa says, "How do I sight something he says?]"
MaggieCa says, "site"
MaggieCa says, "sorry]"
GeraldLa says, "isn't it cite?"
Mr.Cole says, "That's actually a bit of a tricky one.
Interviews are usually referenced by the Interviewee (Sale), but the
editors of PO attribute the interview to Kevin Kelly, the interviewer."
MaggieCa says, "cite"
AndrewGo says, "yes"
MaggieCa says, "sorry"
AndrewGo says, "I used that interview also, but I just used it
as an article thoough"
JoeSa says, "That kinda sucks because if I was Kelly, I would
like my points cited, whether I was being interviewd or not"
Mr.Cole says, "I think you should follow the editors, treating
the interview as an article by Kelly. When you want to quote Sale, use
the phrase "qtd. in Kelly" in your references. And of course make it clear that Sale is the speaker, either
in your text or in the reference."
KurtDa says, "so what is the gameplan for today?"
MaggieCa says, "what do I do after the quote?"
NickSm says, "hey mr. cole, i found an article that alan
dershowitz wrote entitled _how to argue_. thought you might be interrested."
WendyFr says, "Mr.C, what are we doing today?"
Mr.Cole says, "Kirkpatrick Sale says, 'blah blah blah' (qtd.
in Kelly 123)."
MaggieCa says, "thank you very much"
Mr.Cole says, "If there aren't any other general questions,
you can go to your groups. There's an assignment on the note board (#10)."
ScottFr say, "two"
JoeSa leaves for the Three.
AndrewGo leaves for the Three.
JasonOg leaves for the Three.
Mr.Cole says, ""Sounds cool, Nick. Where did you find it?"
JulieOw leaves for the One.
ShannonMc leaves for the Two.
MiMa leaves for the One.
KurtDa leaves for the One.
WendyFr leaves for the Two.
MaggieCa leaves for the Three.
FrankBl leaves for the Two.
ScottFr leaves for the Two.
JenniferCa leaves for the One.
NickSm says, "in an airport magazine. Where could i drop it
off for you to get it?"
GeraldLa leaves for the One.
AnandVy leaves for the Two.
Mr.Cole says, "You could put it in my mailbox in Park Hall.
The mail room is on the 2nd floor, across from the main stairwell (#252,
I think). My box is on the left."
NickSm says, "ok"
Mr.Cole says, "I would like to take a look at it."
NickSm leaves for the Three.
MaggieCa has arrived.
MaggieCa has disconnected.
EdwardLe has arrived.
Mr.Cole leaves for the Two.
MaggieCa has connected.
MaggieCa leaves for the Three.
Mr.Cole has arrived.
Mr.Cole leaves for the One.
Mr.Cole has arrived.
Mr.Cole says, "OK, folks, we are out of time. "
KurtDa has arrived.
WendyFr has arrived.
KurtDa has disconnected.
Mr.Cole says, "Those of you who didn't have drafts up today,
get them up. The rest of you do some reading."
AnandVy has arrived.
JulieOw has arrived.
JasonOg has arrived.
JasonOg goes out.
JulieOw says, "yes sir"
JulieOw has disconnected.
AnandVy says, "Mr. Cole, I'll see you tomorrow."
WendyFr says, "Mr.C, I am about to go try to find a computer."
AnandVy says, "Have agood afternoon"
FrankBl has arrived.
Mr.Cole says, "Wendy, wait a sec."
WendyFr says, "to submit my paper with"
WendyFr says, "OK"
FrankBl has disconnected.
Mr.Cole says, "Bye, everyone."
MaggieCa has arrived.
End log: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 4:16:04 pm Virtual Park Hall time --